Arts Based Therapy and Creativity with Roula Maria Dib and Nisha Gupta
January 28, 2026 at 05:42AM
In this episode of the podcast I am speaking with Nisha Gupta and Roula Maria Dib about their experience with Arts Based Therapy and Creativity. Amongst other things we talk about the daimon, the slowness of turning something into beauty, turning lead into gold, alchemy, co-creating, the creative process, the muse, being seized, Otto Rank and ‘Neurosis is a failure of Creativity’, the creative process, the container of creativity, different styles and tastes of creativity, Aphrodite style, Hermes/Mercury style and Dionysian style.

Roula-Maria Dib (PhD, Leeds) is the director of the London Arts-Based Research Centre, the founding editor of literary and arts journal, Indelible, and creative producer of literary event series, Indelible Evenings, as well as Psychreative, a virtual salon for researchers and creatives with a background in Jungian psychology. She is a holder of the UK Global Talent Visa as an award-winning literary scholar, poet, educator and editor. She is the author of Jungian Metaphor in Modernist Literature (Routledge, 2020).

Nisha Gupta is a psychology professor and artist. She received her education at New York University (B.S. in Psychology and Communications, 2006; M.A. in Mental Health Counseling, 2012) and Duquesne University (Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology, 2018), and is currently based in Decatur, GA.

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